Abuse Recovery

Question:

Hyerdahl wrote: > Sure did.  More women than ever are postponing marriage and childbirth > and where are those women?  More women than men are now entering > college and almost all young women are working outside the home for > money.  That’s what I call service!

I’ve seen this take place for upper-class women. I do not believe this to be a result of feminism; I believe this to be a result of education. Given the experience of previous generations, I completely support this. Lower classes are in another place. As they always are. > There’s no longer a need for feminists to ‘agitate’.  They have made > their points already and now have equal rights by law.

Equal rights are fine and good. What you do with them defines you. Seeing that you’ve been using your equal rights to conduct inquisitions and attack healthy heterosexuality, I’d say you’ve misused what you’ve been given. A typical problem. Blacks did stupid things with their rights when they gained them, too. > Nonsense!  Feminism, being about equal rights for women, has nothing to > do with men.  However, feminists can clearly identify a lying > hypocritical, sexist pig when they see one, and the ring of patriarchy > when they hear it spouted.

If you think these things about me (whether you be man or woman), you are so full of manure that they’ll have to use it for fertilizer. If you see me as that, then girl you’ve got another thing coming. You haven’t seen a true sexist pig. BTW, the dudes on alt.angst who suck up to your kind of person and mouth your ideology are guilty of real crimes against women, from near-murder in domestic disputes to pedophilia. They use your beliefs to gain women’s trust and then do horrible things to them. People like you are easy to manipulate. And real manipulators do. > Which meant that they spurned the affections of those who had any > chance to be good to them, and went with those who were to treat them > like trash. > How does that translate?  If a woman refuses one man that does not > guarantee that another will treat them badly.  Just because a woman > refuses YOU doesn’t mean another man isn’t better for her.  You have a > total lack of logic going on.

No, I’m reasoning clearly. If you believe that men are evil or have evil motives, then you will distrust those who approach you in a loving manner & go with those who approach you in a manner you expect of man (i.e. hateful and malicous). Who, pursuant your belief about men, will treat you in the manner that you expect of him. > Hating patriarchy doesn’t result in hating good men or women.

There you’ve put it. GOOD men or women. I likewise like GOOD men and women. I refuse to like the next person for being a woman, any more than I refuse to like the next person for being a man. Want equality? Here, I give you equality. I give you judgment based on who you are. You are a lost little puppy who bites those who are good for her and cuddles up to those who want to kill her. That’s what you wanted, right? Don’t look so sad. Ilya Shambat.

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I have never seen a single poster from alt.abuse.recovery seek you out or high five one of your posts.  Stop sending this self-impressed, pretentious drivel over here. ~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you.  My tropical liaison won’t improve before I say it ~*~

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On 30 Jun 2005 16:09:20 -0700, ibshambat2…@hotmail.com wrote: >Hyerdahl wrote: >> Sure did.  More women than ever are postponing marriage and childbirth >> and where are those women?  More women than men are now entering >> college and almost all young women are working outside the home for >> money.  That’s what I call service! >I’ve seen this take place for upper-class women.

Translation: chyx who have a complete set of correlllware. >I do not believe this >to be a result of feminism; I believe this to be a result of education. >Given the experience of previous generations, I completely support >this.

Yawn. >Lower classes are in another place. As they always are.

And where is your place, Ilya? Wait wait, that was a rhetorical question. You exist in a delusional state. There is now upper or lower classes. There is only those Ilya tries to emulate and those he feels he is superior in every way. It’s all fairly amusing on a slow day. >> There’s no longer a need for feminists to ‘agitate’.  They have made >> their points already and now have equal rights by law. >Equal rights are fine and good. What you do with them defines you.

MAsturbating in a public library defines you how? >Seeing that you’ve been using your equal rights to conduct inquisitions >and attack healthy heterosexuality, I’d say you’ve misused what you’ve >been given.

Ilya, in sexual mattes you have no right to comment. >A typical problem. Blacks did stupid things with their rights when they >gained them, too.

More info please! >> Nonsense!  Feminism, being about equal rights for women, has nothing to >> do with men.  However, feminists can clearly identify a lying >> hypocritical, sexist pig when they see one, and the ring of patriarchy >> when they hear it spouted. >If you think these things about me (whether you be man or woman), you >are so full of manure that they’ll have to use it for fertilizer.

Interesting (though sad) tactic. >If you see me as that, then girl you’ve got another thing coming. You >haven’t seen a true sexist pig.

She’d have to actually meet you face to face first? <Ilya liedeology> >BTW, the dudes on alt.angst who suck up to your kind of person and >mouth your ideology are guilty of real crimes against women, from >near-murder in domestic disputes to pedophilia. They use your beliefs >to gain women’s trust and then do horrible things to them.

</Ilya liedeology> >People like you are easy to manipulate. And real manipulators do.

LIke you, you mean? >> Which meant that they spurned the affections of those who had any >> chance to be good to them, and went with those who were to treat them >> like trash. >> How does that translate?  If a woman refuses one man that does not >> guarantee that another will treat them badly.  Just because a woman >> refuses YOU doesn’t mean another man isn’t better for her.  You have a >> total lack of logic going on. >No, I’m reasoning clearly.

You aren’t capable of reasoning. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Liz wrote: > I have never seen a single poster from alt.abuse.recovery seek you out > or high five one of your posts.  Stop sending this self-impressed, > pretentious drivel over here.

la la la la la your point?

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On 2 Jul 2005 17:06:21 -0700, ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com wrote: >Liz wrote: >> I have never seen a single poster from alt.abuse.recovery seek you out >> or high five one of your posts.  Stop sending this self-impressed, >> pretentious drivel over here. >la la la la la >your point?

Her point is clear.

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On 21 Jun 2005 15:44:12 -0700, ilya_shambat2…@yahoo.com wrote: Cut the stuff about marriage because Ilya has no experience in this matter and is, as usual, talking shit. >In case of parents attacking the child’s character, the correct >response by the child is, "I did not consciously choose my character. >Perhaps you were expecting someone else. But you got me, and now you >have to live with me.

Does this work with your mother? >Let’s have some honesty here, both for men and for women. I’ve had >feminazi trash call me a misogynist and soc.men morons call me a male >feminist. Both are engaged in shadow projection, and for as long as >both do that they are incapable of honesty.

Ilya, you can’t even be honest with yourself. >You haven’t seen a bastard (well, unless you’ve been with >Cujo or Bob or David).

You have it wrong. I’m an evil wizard. Remember?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hyerdahl wrote: > Dolores wrote: >>Logique wrote: >>>The correct response for a woman at the receiving end of this is: "If >>>you don’t like me, then why don’t you divorce me and get another wife? >>>Come on, be a man. Take initiative and find someone appropriate for >>>you. You wooed me. You wanted me. If I’m not what you wanted, you have >>>no one to blame but yourself." >>>———————— >>>That is not the way I would look at it.  Lets say using the standard >>>bell curve and on a scale of 1 to 10 assigning half the people as fives >>>and sixes would give each increment slightly over .6 Standard >>>Derivation.  So, only