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Glad to have a conversation with you cal if you ever get the courage and the strength to talk in whole and complete thoughts … right now you are to green in your recovery to do over the internet. sumbuddie sorry 4 u :*)
why are you sorry for me?
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Glad to have a conversation with you cal if you ever get the courage and the strength to talk in whole and complete thoughts … right now you are to green in your recovery to do over the internet. sumbuddie sorry 4 u :*) why are you sorry for me?
//// ahhhh, a complete unfragmented thought …. impressive cal. iyam sorry 4 u cause you were hurt so badly as a child and still have to go though the pain of healing that up …. still have that ahead of you and dogging at your heels with the pain that continues to come into your life. When ever you tired of that kind of pain, like 9/11, I am sure you will do something about it. good luck in your recovery, ur days are numbered. sumbuddie who cares :*) —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Glad to have a conversation with you alan if you ever get the courage and the strangth to talk in whole and complete thoughts … right now you are to green in your recovery to do it anywhere, since you aren’t recovering at all, but just spreading your message of hatred and ignorance to the world in general. Dragon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Glad to have a conversation with you cal if you ever get the courage and the strength to talk in whole and complete thoughts … right now you are to green in your recovery to do over the internet. sumbuddie sorry 4 u :*) When the time is right for the tears to come out and finish your recovery guy – then that is when they will come out. when the time is right for you to turn that compulsively analytical mind on the source of what you project onto the world and people around you… then that is when you will do it. Good luck. sumbuddie deux amor maybe someday, or by somebuddie stronger than i am. cal —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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You’re so fragmented yourself, it’s easy to see why it’s so difficult for you to understand rational thinking. Perhaps you need to consider how green in your recovery you are, Alan. If you could talk in whole thoughts instead of fragmenting so much, maybe you could actually have a rational conversation instead of just ranting on and on about other people and things over which you have no control and never will, which angers you no end, obviously. Dragon Just call me elephant – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – tidyride … you do the same thing … talk in whole thoughts until you get into a discussion with me and then you fragment – you stop talking like youare doing now and I do to you now … Eric does the same thing – just look at the record of Dear Mr. Mac Farlane letters – well done … asking me why I make reference to dysfunctional relationships in religion(s) and then say that I did not answer his question about faith … I can see why you laugh … its hard to look inside especially when its right in front of you on your screen in black and white … When the time is right for the tears to come out and finish your recovery guy – then that is when they will come out. Good luck. sumbuddie deux amor | Ohhhhh Eric … you were doing such a good job writing in whole and complete | thoughts – now you went off the deep end and fragmented … This is definitely a classic. I have been laughing now for nearly five minutes. Alan lecturing someone on fragmented thinking… Man oh man 
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good for you tidey, you are back to speaking in whole thoughts again… now to the point … everyones else’s thoughts are not fragmented, their speaking is fragmented (from time to time) as demonstrated by you, tideyrider, liz … all the people green in their recovery who insist on staying in denial, staying in their belief system. Well anyway, welcome back to the conversation and the successfull integration to speak in a whole thought that is not fragmented. Just like I am speaking to you now and always have; just as a further example to help you get an idea of what a speaking without fragmenting looks like. Have to model healthy behaviour in this case healthy thinking since the recovery modality is limited by the internet. This is healthier of you tideyguy … though you are thinkin still is stinkin … its progress. Soon you might even own your words with a signoff; you know … walk your talk. keep up the good work. sumbuddie happy deux day. :*) Of course Alan. Everyone else’s thoughts are fragmenting, you’re the only one who’s lucid…. Stop already – my ribs are aching
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Glad to have a conversation with you cal if you ever get the courage and the strength to talk in whole and complete thoughts … right now you are to green in your recovery to do over the internet. sumbuddie sorry 4 u :*) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When the time is right for the tears to come out and finish your recovery guy – then that is when they will come out. when the time is right for you to turn that compulsively analytical mind on the source of what you project onto the world and people around you… then that is when you will do it. Good luck. sumbuddie deux amor maybe someday, or by somebuddie stronger than i am. cal
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Poor Alan. So busy hating others, so he won’t have to realize how much he hates himself. Dragon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ohhhhh Eric … you were doing such a good job writing in whole and complete thoughts – now you went off the deep end and fragmented … Like the other sick green people here who talk with a broken tongue as their lies and denial are more important to them right now over their recovery … I will not engage in keeping you sick … Sooooooo when ever you can get BACK to writing in whole and complete thoughts like the one you see before you now – and the way you used to write to me in the recent past since you fragmented … then we can continue our conversation. About you supposedly reading Exodus 21:22-27 and not memorized it nor see how abortion, the seed, the prematurity do come out in the fight between to men and the pregnant woman is damaged and not KILLED in the fight – but her prematurity is killed, for it do spill out of her womb … Well Eric, when ever you want to take the chandor off your head to see and hear clearly – then go right ahead. Its scary at first, and a little different to face God in the nakked truth of things – but its okey after awhile … sumbuddie knows :*) Oh good, dont talk is one of the dysfunctional rules to keep the disease in place … all alcoholics right down to our President Humpty Dumpty do it and the people cooperate with the disease. What am I not talking about? Is it possible for you to name the disease and give some information on it without launching into a lengthy diatribe against Christianity, your current president and the religious right? Or, is that the disease as far as you are concerned? One minor point. I’ve never been too impressed by groups that insist on insulting labels for groups they dis-like or oppose. Dr. Dobson does this when he calls various groups the ‘anti-family activists’, as if anyone or any group would be consciously dedicated toward destroying families. Both sides of the abortion debate do this with their wonderful: anti-choice, pro-abortionists, and various other rhetoric that I don’t remember. Any particular reason why you tend to be so insulting with your president? I’m not saying I like him, respect him, would vote for him if I were an American (I’m Canadian btw), but as I’ve mentioned elsewhere, you’re insults and put-downs say more about you than your target. Anyhow, thanks for letting me know that you got that far with it and then buried your head. In as much as it was YOU who asked the question as to why I make reference to the disease in the multi-culteral cross-disciplinary references that I do. That’s right. I asked you a question. In your own way, you answered it. You are still only quoting yourself and your thoughts. You ought to be an authority on your own ideas. I take it from your non-answer that these ideas are only yours. BTW I looked up Exodus 21: 22-27 (I don’t have scripture memorized), and I can’t see how it makes abortion legal. Perhaps you are using a different bible. I was not seeking a reply, except to the question I posted to you in as much as you wanted to talk and solict question to begin with … that question being if you had a wife, would you have your wife fuck God the Father to make baby Jesus and save the world after it is all destroyed and we are all dead … You never asked me this question. My answer is no. I don’t think I’d ever face such a question. With how God views marriage, love, sex etc, he wouldn’t ask me this. He is not an arbitrary being, even though it may seem that way at times. You could do better by asking would I give up my first-born son as a sacrifice the way God called Abraham to in Genesis. At least that would be more biblically based and difficult to answer. I’m not sure how I’d fare in such a case and hope I’d never have to make such a decision. There’s a problem with hypothetical questions like this. We can’t really answer accurately unless we’ve really faced such a situation. Talk is cheap. its a miracle fuck, a good one, all the wonderfull words you want to us … but at the end of the day it is … God the Father, His Son gave birth by His Daughter … the Virgin Mary. Its just special … that’s all. Its not evil, its not sick, its not incestous, its not unhealthy … its a fucking miracle … Can you possibly speak without using the ‘f’ word? Can you think of another way of bringing Jesus into the world with an understanding of what it’s like to live here, other than to be born, and grow up like everyone else? I guess since you can’t accept the miracle, you choose to accept that God just had sex with Mary to have Jesus. Just a tad selective, aren’t we? You are also projecting your own interpretations on Christians and calling it the disease. A huge assumption to make for millions upon millions of people throughout history. sumbuddie not making dis up ya know :*) Alan, I did read it. I chose not to reply. It seems you continue your efforts to assist me. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– Regards, Eric "It’s not the sharpness of the blade, or how much light it shows It’s more the way the wisdom’s used, than just how much one knows" Arctic Rose by Susan Aglukark —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Of course Alan. Everyone else’s thoughts are fragmenting, you’re the only one who’s lucid…. Stop already – my ribs are aching | tidyride … you do the same thing … talk in whole thoughts until you get | into a discussion with me and then you fragment – you stop talking like | youare doing now and I do to you now … | | Eric does the same thing – just look at the record of Dear Mr. Mac Farlane | letters – well done … asking me why I make reference to dysfunctional | relationships in religion(s) and then say that I did not answer his question | about faith … | | I can see why you laugh … its hard to look inside especially when its | right in front of you on your screen in black and white … | | When the time is right for the tears to come out and finish your recovery | guy – then that is when they will come out. | | Good luck. | | sumbuddie deux amor | | | | | | Ohhhhh Eric … you were doing such a good job writing in whole and complete | | thoughts – now you went off the deep end and fragmented … | | This is definitely a classic. I have been laughing now for nearly five | minutes. | Alan lecturing someone on fragmented thinking… | | Man oh man | | | | —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– | http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! | —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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| Ohhhhh Eric … you were doing such a good job writing in whole and complete | thoughts – now you went off the deep end and fragmented … This is definitely a classic. I have been laughing now for nearly five minutes. Alan lecturing someone on fragmented thinking… Man oh man
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tidyride … you do the same thing … talk in whole thoughts until you get into a discussion with me and then you fragment – you stop talking like youare doing now and I do to you now … Eric does the same thing – just look at the record of Dear Mr. Mac Farlane letters – well done … asking me why I make reference to dysfunctional relationships in religion(s) and then say that I did not answer his question about faith … I can see why you laugh … its hard to look inside especially when its right in front of you on your screen in black and white … When the time is right for the tears to come out and finish your recovery guy – then that is when they will come out. Good luck. sumbuddie deux amor | Ohhhhh Eric … you were doing such a good job writing in whole and complete | thoughts – now you went off the deep end and fragmented … This is definitely a classic. I have been laughing now for nearly five minutes. Alan lecturing someone on fragmented thinking… Man oh man
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When the time is right for the tears to come out and finish your recovery guy – then that is when they will come out.
when the time is right for you to turn that compulsively analytical mind on the source of what you project onto the world and people around you… then that is when you will do it. Good luck. sumbuddie deux amor
maybe someday, or by somebuddie stronger than i am. cal
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So, now not answering you is telling you not to talk. Talking to you is pointless, Alan. It always has been, because you don’t listen, you just spew your hatred of republicans and Christians. It’s didn’t take Eric long to figure that out. Too bad you never have. Dragon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh good, dont talk is one of the dysfunctional rules to keep the disease in place … all alcoholics right down to our President Humpty Dumpty do it and the people cooperate with the disease. Anyhow, thanks for letting me know that you got that far with it and then buried your head. In as much as it was YOU who asked the question as to why I make reference to the disease in the multi-culteral cross-disciplinary references that I do. I was not seeking a reply, except to the question I posted to you in as much as you wanted to talk and solict question to begin with … that question being if you had a wife, would you have your wife fuck God the Father to make baby Jesus and save the world after it is all destroyed and we are all dead … its a miracle fuck, a good one, all the wonderfull words you want to us … but at the end of the day it is … God the Father, His Son gave birth by His Daughter … the Virgin Mary. Its just special … that’s all. Its not evil, its not sick, its not incestous, its not unhealthy … its a fucking miracle … sumbuddie not making dis up ya know :*) Alan, I did read it. I chose not to reply. It seems you continue your efforts to assist me. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Ohhhhh Eric … you were doing such a good job writing in whole and complete thoughts – now you went off the deep end and fragmented … Like the other sick green people here who talk with a broken tongue as their lies and denial are more important to them right now over their recovery … I will not engage in keeping you sick … Sooooooo when ever you can get BACK to writing in whole and complete thoughts like the one you see before you now – and the way you used to write to me in the recent past since you fragmented … then we can continue our conversation. About you supposedly reading Exodus 21:22-27 and not memorized it nor see how abortion, the seed, the prematurity do come out in the fight between to men and the pregnant woman is damaged and not KILLED in the fight – but her prematurity is killed, for it do spill out of her womb … Well Eric, when ever you want to take the chandor off your head to see and hear clearly – then go right ahead. Its scary at first, and a little different to face God in the nakked truth of things – but its okey after awhile … sumbuddie knows :*) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh good, dont talk is one of the dysfunctional rules to keep the disease in place … all alcoholics right down to our President Humpty Dumpty do it and the people cooperate with the disease. What am I not talking about? Is it possible for you to name the disease and give some information on it without launching into a lengthy diatribe against Christianity, your current president and the religious right? Or, is that the disease as far as you are concerned? One minor point. I’ve never been too impressed by groups that insist on insulting labels for groups they dis-like or oppose. Dr. Dobson does this when he calls various groups the ‘anti-family activists’, as if anyone or any group would be consciously dedicated toward destroying families. Both sides of the abortion debate do this with their wonderful: anti-choice, pro-abortionists, and various other rhetoric that I don’t remember. Any particular reason why you tend to be so insulting with your president? I’m not saying I like him, respect him, would vote for him if I were an American (I’m Canadian btw), but as I’ve mentioned elsewhere, you’re insults and put-downs say more about you than your target. Anyhow, thanks for letting me know that you got that far with it and then buried your head. In as much as it was YOU who asked the question as to why I make reference to the disease in the multi-culteral cross-disciplinary references that I do. That’s right. I asked you a question. In your own way, you answered it. You are still only quoting yourself and your thoughts. You ought to be an authority on your own ideas. I take it from your non-answer that these ideas are only yours. BTW I looked up Exodus 21: 22-27 (I don’t have scripture memorized), and I can’t see how it makes abortion legal. Perhaps you are using a different bible. I was not seeking a reply, except to the question I posted to you in as much as you wanted to talk and solict question to begin with … that question being if you had a wife, would you have your wife fuck God the Father to make baby Jesus and save the world after it is all destroyed and we are all dead … You never asked me this question. My answer is no. I don’t think I’d ever face such a question. With how God views marriage, love, sex etc, he wouldn’t ask me this. He is not an arbitrary being, even though it may seem that way at times. You could do better by asking would I give up my first-born son as a sacrifice the way God called Abraham to in Genesis. At least that would be more biblically based and difficult to answer. I’m not sure how I’d fare in such a case and hope I’d never have to make such a decision. There’s a problem with hypothetical questions like this. We can’t really answer accurately unless we’ve really faced such a situation. Talk is cheap. its a miracle fuck, a good one, all the wonderfull words you want to us … but at the end of the day it is … God the Father, His Son gave birth by His Daughter … the Virgin Mary. Its just special … that’s all. Its not evil, its not sick, its not incestous, its not unhealthy … its a fucking miracle … Can you possibly speak without using the ‘f’ word? Can you think of another way of bringing Jesus into the world with an understanding of what it’s like to live here, other than to be born, and grow up like everyone else? I guess since you can’t accept the miracle, you choose to accept that God just had sex with Mary to have Jesus. Just a tad selective, aren’t we? You are also projecting your own interpretations on Christians and calling it the disease. A huge assumption to make for millions upon millions of people throughout history. sumbuddie not making dis up ya know :*) Alan, I did read it. I chose not to reply. It seems you continue your efforts to assist me. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—– Regards, Eric "It’s not the sharpness of the blade, or how much light it shows It’s more the way the wisdom’s used, than just how much one knows" Arctic Rose by Susan Aglukark
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Oh good, dont talk is one of the dysfunctional rules to keep the disease in place … all alcoholics right down to our President Humpty Dumpty do it and the people cooperate with the disease. Anyhow, thanks for letting me know that you got that far with it and then buried your head. In as much as it was YOU who asked the question as to why I make reference to the disease in the multi-culteral cross-disciplinary references that I do. I was not seeking a reply, except to the question I posted to you in as much as you wanted to talk and solict question to begin with … that question being if you had a wife, would you have your wife fuck God the Father to make baby Jesus and save the world after it is all destroyed and we are all dead … its a miracle fuck, a good one, all the wonderfull words you want to us … but at the end of the day it is … God the Father, His Son gave birth by His Daughter … the Virgin Mary. Its just special … that’s all. Its not evil, its not sick, its not incestous, its not unhealthy … its a fucking miracle … sumbuddie not making dis up ya know :*) Alan, I did read it. I chose not to reply. It seems you continue your efforts to assist me.
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Oh good, dont talk is one of the dysfunctional rules to keep the disease in place … all alcoholics right down to our President Humpty Dumpty do it and the people cooperate with the disease.
What am I not talking about? Is it possible for you to name the disease and give some information on it without launching into a lengthy diatribe against Christianity, your current president and the religious right? Or, is that the disease as far as you are concerned? One minor point. I’ve never been too impressed by groups that insist on insulting labels for groups they dis-like or oppose. Dr. Dobson does this when he calls various groups the ‘anti-family activists’, as if anyone or any group would be consciously dedicated toward destroying families. Both sides of the abortion debate do this with their wonderful: anti-choice, pro-abortionists, and various other rhetoric that I don’t remember. Any particular reason why you tend to be so insulting with your president? I’m not saying I like him, respect him, would vote for him if I were an American (I’m Canadian btw), but as I’ve mentioned elsewhere, you’re insults and put-downs say more about you than your target. Anyhow, thanks for letting me know that you got that far with it and then buried your head. In as much as it was YOU who asked the question as to why I make reference to the disease in the multi-culteral cross-disciplinary references that I do.
That’s right. I asked you a question. In your own way, you answered it. You are still only quoting yourself and your thoughts. You ought to be an authority on your own ideas. I take it from your non-answer that these ideas are only yours. BTW I looked up Exodus 21: 22-27 (I don’t have scripture memorized), and I can’t see how it makes abortion legal. Perhaps you are using a different bible. I was not seeking a reply, except to the question I posted to you in as much as you wanted to talk and solict question to begin with … that question being if you had a wife, would you have your wife fuck God the Father to make baby Jesus and save the world after it is all destroyed and we are all dead …
You never asked me this question. My answer is no. I don’t think I’d ever face such a question. With how God views marriage, love, sex etc, he wouldn’t ask me this. He is not an arbitrary being, even though it may seem that way at times. You could do better by asking would I give up my first-born son as a sacrifice the way God called Abraham to in Genesis. At least that would be more biblically based and difficult to answer. I’m not sure how I’d fare in such a case and hope I’d never have to make such a decision. There’s a problem with hypothetical questions like this. We can’t really answer accurately unless we’ve really faced such a situation. Talk is cheap. its a miracle fuck, a good one, all the wonderfull words you want to us … but at the end of the day it is … God the Father, His Son gave birth by His Daughter … the Virgin Mary. Its just special … that’s all. Its not evil, its not sick, its not incestous, its not unhealthy … its a fucking miracle …
Can you possibly speak without using the ‘f’ word? Can you think of another way of bringing Jesus into the world with an understanding of what it’s like to live here, other than to be born, and grow up like everyone else? I guess since you can’t accept the miracle, you choose to accept that God just had sex with Mary to have Jesus. Just a tad selective, aren’t we? You are also projecting your own interpretations on Christians and calling it the disease. A huge assumption to make for millions upon millions of people throughout history. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – sumbuddie not making dis up ya know :*) Alan, I did read it. I chose not to reply. It seems you continue your efforts to assist me. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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you have to give up your faith
Seems you did not get or read my Dear Eric … (green guy) posting to you. faith is the ‘mental acceptance’ of something that you dont know anything about and accept as true though it be an incestous satanistic lie … God the Father has to make babies with his daugher to save the world and bring heaven on earth … yeppers thats the way to do it in the faith … people in the spiritual path that is bigger then their faith and their belief know about recovery without a God that fucks around. Their God is a bit more honest, healthy, respectfull and loving then that. Just toss out the the bathwater – keep the baby. Have to have a mind like a child to come to God, that is child like not child ish … full of the beast even. Dragon and her hot air …. putting on da beast in New York City. sumbuddie knows what is going on :*) —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Hello Dragon, Thanks for your reply. I think it best if I leave Alan to his way of thinking. It seems he has quite a bone to pick with Christianity and from his follow-up, he claims that to move forward in recovery, you have to give up your faith or see it as very twisted and sick. A rather narrow point of view to me.
Narrow? To me that’s putting it mildly. But that could just be because I’ve been putting up with it longer. :P I suppose my following up to you while discussing his post is a way of following up to his post which I said I wouldn’t do. Too bad.
If so, that’s his problem. I certainly understand where you’re coming from. There are times when I do the same thing (for the same basic reasons). Dragon
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Alan, I did read it. I chose not to reply. It seems you continue your efforts to assist me. you have to give up your faith Seems you did not get or read my Dear Eric … (green guy) posting to you. faith is the ‘mental acceptance’ of something that you dont know anything about and accept as true though it be an incestous satanistic lie …
Other than the incestuous satanic lie stuff, not too far off the mark for faith. Assurance of things hoped for and belief in things not seen. Belief in something you have no concrete proof of. God the Father has to make babies with his daugher to save the world and bring heaven on earth … yeppers thats the way to do it in the faith …
Rather a twisting of the events. Make babies. Make babies. It was one baby and it wasn’t with sex. At least this time you don’t refer to more than one daughter. How it happened? We have no scientific explanation for the immaculate conception. I don’t ask you to accept it or believe it. people in the spiritual path that is bigger then their faith and their belief know about recovery without a God that fucks around.
My God doesn’t fuck around. While being made in his image, he is wholly unlike us. I don’t believe he shares our physical limitations. What is your God like? Their God is a bit more honest, healthy, respectfull and loving then that. Just toss out the the bathwater – keep the baby. Have to have a mind like a child to come to God, that is child like not child ish … full of the beast even. Dragon and her hot air …. putting on da beast in New York City. sumbuddie knows what is going on :*)
It seems your point is that a group of people who believe in a God who had sex with one of his children/believers to bring his child into the world in order to save them must be messed up if they believe this was necessary. Perhaps you also think this inspires them to sexually abuse their children as well as other forms of abuse. If you can quote some more detailed analysis than just your own opinions and speculation, go ahead. If you’re claiming you have some secret knowledge and insight that most people don’t have, that’s frightening and cultish. I see you’re continued references to me as green as an immature put-down and condescending. Probably necessary for you to avoid having to think of me as anything approaching an equal. Again, this says more about you than it does about me. It bothers me, but the more I see that and other condescending stuff from you, the less I care what you think. Naturally, respect is something I think you have to earn. Un-earned respect isn’t real as far as I’m concerned. On the flip side, I don’t think contempt and condescension should be the default either. To me, politeness with the assumption of equality should be the default. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Hello Dragon, Thanks for your reply. I think it best if I leave Alan to his way of thinking. It seems he has quite a bone to pick with Christianity and from his follow-up, he claims that to move forward in recovery, you have to give up your faith or see it as very twisted and sick. A rather narrow point of view to me. I suppose my following up to you while discussing his post is a way of following up to his post which I said I wouldn’t do. Too bad. Fare thee well, Dragon. Eric "It’s not the sharpness of the blade, or how much light it shows It’s more the way the wisdom’s used, than just how much one knows" Arctic Rose by Susan Aglukark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Boy it sure didn’t take you long to get him pegged. Dragon Mr. Mac Farlane, I was wondering if I should respond to your un-informed response or not. I’m still debating the merits and worth of replying. Will this accomplish something? Sure it will. It will give you another opportunity to spout off about God, virgins, Satan etc and make un-informed speculations about where I am in my recovery. To me this says a great deal about you, and not much about me. Based on very little data, you think you have me figured out and even claim that I’m green in my recovery. Your post has a lot of judgements about me. Perhaps you attribute all you said about me to every Christian who takes offense at what you say. I asked you a question. Why do you keep making the references you do? Especially when I fail to see the relevance to the subjects at hand. Foolish me for trying to take you seriously. You bring that email into here. Private to public. I follow up. You follow up. Your reply makes me wonder if you read much of my reply. I think I shall drop this thread, though I fear you may follow up to future posts of mine in other threads with the same stuff. Perhaps dumping all this crap on a Christian helps you in your recovery. Only you can answer that and I’m not even sure you can. Maybe you won’t follow up with more of the same stuff. Shout it loud enough and long enough perhaps? Sarcasm on: You win. You are right. You are brilliant. I should bow to your vastly superior intellect and communication skills and will never confront you again. You thoroughly outfight me in all departments. I’m so green I don’t even know what recovery is or where to find it. I can’t possibly face myself or be honest with myself, let alone anyone else or, horrors, realize that there may be people who don’t think the way I do! Sarcasm off. Petty, childish, foolish, but somewhat satisfying. As Bugs Bunny has said, I’d like to say it’s been a good time, but it hasn’t. toodles, Eric "It’s not the sharpness of the blade, or how much light it shows It’s more the way the wisdom’s used, than just how much one knows" Arctic Rose by Susan Aglukark ue false modesty of grandstanding in the ng to deal with public issues found here, and taking it off line in the dark of night in to the private arena, especially when it was unasked for, unsoliceted, and as you found out unwelcomed … and since I started it here, and brought it back here, thank you for keeping it here dispite your personal need to do otherwise. honesty is hard for people green in their recovery. as for the topic of God making babies with his daughters giving birth to an incest inbreed, and you have a problem with moi because of that. it is that that I suggest you are loath to think … because ANYBUDDIE saying that would rise up the same issues, its the words, the ideas you dont like – so its not me. I am not your problem, your problem since you are the one who brought it up, is that your God the Father makes babies with his virgin daughter, hell it could be a bigger miracle if Joseph got preggers and not his wife Madonna … but that would be to close to the Romulus/Reamus twin cult … and homosexuality twisting into the evil twin – Satan. This to you makes no sense, it makes no sense about the miracle birth of God the Father and his virgin daughter getting it on and making a baby, his son with his daughter … Keep working on your recovery, healing up the beast 666 with in, especially if you are sucking at the Roman Wolf nipple is hard to do. Good luck dude, you dont understand cause you dont want to and you don want to explore and find out … far to scary might lose your ticket into everlasting life if you question your external higher power who you give your life away to. Its a neat trick for Satan to hide in the Bible and pretend its a holy thing for Fathers to make babies with His daughters, especially the ones who are not experienced, and its them being touched for the very first time. Like a virgin. Oooooooooooh !!!!!! sumbuddie else said dat :*) Mr. Mac Farlane, Typically, I email something to someone because that way I know I’m not grand-standing or getting on a soapbox. If I have a problem with someone, I try to resolve that privately. Taking it ‘off-line’ so to speak. That’s worked with other people, but not with you. Since you brought this here, I’ll respond here. I find your answer makes no sense. The only thing I can figure out from it is that part of your recovery depends on twisting scripture to support a different point of view, and making fun of the beliefs of Christians. This is nothing new to me. I guess after reading some of your posts for a very long time, I finally tried to see if there was a point to your doing that. Obviously there is, but I’m not sure I understand it. You make a number of assumptions about me, that I dislike learning, not studied etc. Assume what you will. I won’t bother to either confirm or deny. If you feel that way, mere words and arguments won’t convince you otherwise. I have been here before. I first posted to aar in 1995 and continued off and on for a couple of years. I stopped because I found it too difficult to deal with someone who labelled a large number of people abusers without substantiating his accusation. Some people may remember Brent Turvey. I resumed posting perhaps 2 years ago? but stopped last year when I got laid off from Nortel. Being unemployed meant I no longer had the energy for aar. Now that I have a job again, I’ve found I have the energy to participate. We’ll see, anyway. Even when I was participating, I often reached my max and had to back off. My recovery is proceeding very well. For recent developments and information, see other posts of mine. I’m still considering seeing a therapist, but haven’t made up my mind yet. If you still don’t remember me, surely you remember my signature? toodles, Eric —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Boy it sure didn’t take you long to get him pegged. Dragon
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mr. Mac Farlane, I was wondering if I should respond to your un-informed response or not. I’m still debating the merits and worth of replying. Will this accomplish something? Sure it will. It will give you another opportunity to spout off about God, virgins, Satan etc and make un-informed speculations about where I am in my recovery. To me this says a great deal about you, and not much about me. Based on very little data, you think you have me figured out and even claim that I’m green in my recovery. Your post has a lot of judgements about me. Perhaps you attribute all you said about me to every Christian who takes offense at what you say. I asked you a question. Why do you keep making the references you do? Especially when I fail to see the relevance to the subjects at hand. Foolish me for trying to take you seriously. You bring that email into here. Private to public. I follow up. You follow up. Your reply makes me wonder if you read much of my reply. I think I shall drop this thread, though I fear you may follow up to future posts of mine in other threads with the same stuff. Perhaps dumping all this crap on a Christian helps you in your recovery. Only you can answer that and I’m not even sure you can. Maybe you won’t follow up with more of the same stuff. Shout it loud enough and long enough perhaps? Sarcasm on: You win. You are right. You are brilliant. I should bow to your vastly superior intellect and communication skills and will never confront you again. You thoroughly outfight me in all departments. I’m so green I don’t even know what recovery is or where to find it. I can’t possibly face myself or be honest with myself, let alone anyone else or, horrors, realize that there may be people who don’t think the way I do! Sarcasm off. Petty, childish, foolish, but somewhat satisfying. As Bugs Bunny has said, I’d like to say it’s been a good time, but it hasn’t. toodles, Eric "It’s not the sharpness of the blade, or how much light it shows It’s more the way the wisdom’s used, than just how much one knows" Arctic Rose by Susan Aglukark ue false modesty of grandstanding in the ng to deal with public issues found here, and taking it off line in the dark of night in to the private arena, especially when it was unasked for, unsoliceted, and as you found out unwelcomed … and since I started it here, and brought it back here, thank you for keeping it here dispite your personal need to do otherwise. honesty is hard for people green in their recovery. as for the topic of God making babies with his daughters giving birth to an incest inbreed, and you have a problem with moi because of that. it is that that I suggest you are loath to think … because ANYBUDDIE saying that would rise up the same issues, its the words, the ideas you dont like – so its not me. I am not your problem, your problem since you are the one who brought it up, is that your God the Father makes babies with his virgin daughter, hell it could be a bigger miracle if Joseph got preggers and not his wife Madonna … but that would be to close to the Romulus/Reamus twin cult … and homosexuality twisting into the evil twin – Satan. This to you makes no sense, it makes no sense about the miracle birth of God the Father and his virgin daughter getting it on and making a baby, his son with his daughter … Keep working on your recovery, healing up the beast 666 with in, especially if you are sucking at the Roman Wolf nipple is hard to do. Good luck dude, you dont understand cause you dont want to and you don want to explore and find out … far to scary might lose your ticket into everlasting life if you question your external higher power who you give your life away to. Its a neat trick for Satan to hide in the Bible and pretend its a holy thing for Fathers to make babies with His daughters, especially the ones who are not experienced, and its them being touched for the very first time. Like a virgin. Oooooooooooh !!!!!! sumbuddie else said dat :*) Mr. Mac Farlane, Typically, I email something to someone because that way I know I’m not grand-standing or getting on a soapbox. If I have a problem with someone, I try to resolve that privately. Taking it ‘off-line’ so to speak. That’s worked with other people, but not with you. Since you brought this here, I’ll respond here. I find your answer makes no sense. The only thing I can figure out from it is that part of your recovery depends on twisting scripture to support a different point of view, and making fun of the beliefs of Christians. This is nothing new to me. I guess after reading some of your posts for a very long time, I finally tried to see if there was a point to your doing that. Obviously there is, but I’m not sure I understand it. You make a number of assumptions about me, that I dislike learning, not studied etc. Assume what you will. I won’t bother to either confirm or deny. If you feel that way, mere words and arguments won’t convince you otherwise. I have been here before. I first posted to aar in 1995 and continued off and on for a couple of years. I stopped because I found it too difficult to deal with someone who labelled a large number of people abusers without substantiating his accusation. Some people may remember Brent Turvey. I resumed posting perhaps 2 years ago? but stopped last year when I got laid off from Nortel. Being unemployed meant I no longer had the energy for aar. Now that I have a job again, I’ve found I have the energy to participate. We’ll see, anyway. Even when I was participating, I often reached my max and had to back off. My recovery is proceeding very well. For recent developments and information, see other posts of mine. I’m still considering seeing a therapist, but haven’t made up my mind yet. If you still don’t remember me, surely you remember my signature? toodles, Eric —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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I asked you a question. Why do you keep making the references you do? Especially when I fail to see the relevance to the subjects at hand.
Dear Eric .. Below is the first posting I ever made in this newsgroup about abuse and recovery, not just today, yesterday but for all ages. How is it that the abuse recovery phonmena arises, how do people break and how do they get better, make a recovery from their damages to become whole and complete people – the way they were born whole and complete. The more heuristic information you have at your disposal on a par with the ability to think and connect the dots … allows one to understand what I am saying. This is why I say you are unlearned and are loath to think, its all at hand, just have to open the old peepers and see what you are doing and what is happening … not try to make it wrong or make it right or make it anything else but what it is. Buff, one of the more green people locked into her shit just like you are is a very smart woman and she GOT IT, the first time I posted this about the Beast – 666. She freaked out, she got it so well and got it so much what I was talking about. Also like you, she made me the problem, Dragon Lady is doing the same thing. I am the problem for talking about "God the Father boffing Madonna his virgin daughter and making an incest inbreed". Not that the true fact of the Bibilical matter is what is the problem, the sickness, and its not a miracle … it is unhealthy and continues through the nation and our children. So Eric, if you were married, would you let God fuck your wife to make Baby Jesus to come here and save us after we are all dead … are you that kind of guy. Bro Jack was honest enough to answer it, he would let his wife fuck God. After awhile Bro Jack left since he kept seeing the disease and could not handle it in his recovery at this time in his life. You are getting to the same place, rather not to think and deal with what is so disconcerting inside of YOU that the words "God boffing Madonna his daugher" is so bother some to you. Its not me that is the problem, any body saying this would get the same response from you, Dragon Lady and from Buff. sumbuddie on da watchtower :*) OK People, and the Christian Nazi’s who are my Fellow American Citizens: I am going to present you with some information that is going to be new to some of you, the old timers and the 144,00 who read my letters to the World Leaders already know of this information. So, Hold on, Hold on to your Self; this is going to hurt like Hell. (Sarah McLaughlin) "Fumbling Towards Exstasy" The title of the Pope is Vicarius Feli Dei. It translates to Vicar of the Son of God from the Latin. In Greek those words, are ANTEANON (I don’t have cryulic font so that is the closest I can get) and the Hebron is 6 characters long and I can not pronouce it phonetically, nor type her for you – but the Jewish people know it. Well, in all three ancient languages, Latin, Greek and Hebron, using the spirital system of numerology from the Hebron Essene People (who were and were not Jewish) in the Kaballa – each equals to 666. The title is embossed on the Pope’s miter, the mark on his head, and something to do with his ring, the mark on his hand. Now, it is not the Pope who is the Beast – 666, it is the philosphy or the dogma that is the Vatican for the past 2,000 years that is the Beast – 666. The Beast – 666, Dysfunctional Psychology, The Corruption of Rome, and the illness that kills itself, are synomous terms. And prophacy is mearly a spiritual clinical prognosis. A warning to change one’s ways, if the people listen and change, the prophacy or the bad illness prophacy doesn’t manifest. The so called good prophacy, clinical prognosis manifests. A bible prophet, was a shaman of that system of knowledge. Shamans are a world wide phonomena – all cultures and all times have them – it is part of life – one can not stop making shamans here. The Corruption of Rome can be seen in the symbol of facism, the Cesarian Axe surrounded by the 40 staves of wood – here when one spoke against the external higher power – one was either beaten to break the 40 staves and see if you lived or was crippled for that, or one could take the axe to the neck. This is what was seen in the Nicole Brown/OJ Simpson trip and in lots of marriages across this planet – one is either beaten into submission or is killed off. The illness that kills itself, is from the Kahauna, the Shamas of the Native American Islanders. When the Americans invaded the island, the medicine men, the healers/shamans came out and said don’t fight – they have the illness that kills itself just wait for them to die out. That is their prophacy that is in line with the Bible. Dysfunctional Psychology comes from alcoholic emotionally abuseing family systems. If one is working their dysfunctional issues, acting out on drug abuse, the etiology of the disease is well know, and the prognosis is very poor. Emotional abuse and acting out is suicide on the installment plan – on a planetary level this is seen in pollution – killing the host planet we live on to kill our selves. The adding and taking away from the Bible, like the Pope, Fallwell, Robertson, Koresh ,Jones, Swaggart, Baker and other does is an aspect of the Beast. Insisting that abortion is murder, that the "breath of life" is oxygen, adding and taking away from the scripture, are recent examples. The Beast – 666 is the animal side of human beings. And when one lives like an animal, engaging in thievery, deception, or taking different whips to beat ones or another to get them away from their emotions and the appropriate expression thereof, one gets closer to the Beast inside of you. When one is in harmony with their emotions, walking in balance, with clear eyes, a straight tongue, and no shame in your heart – one is closer to God. I wish it were more complex then that, but it is not. Sincerely and respectfully submitted. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Mr. Mac Farlane, I was wondering if I should respond to your un-informed response or not. I’m still debating the merits and worth of replying. Will this accomplish something? Sure it will. It will give you another opportunity to spout off about God, virgins, Satan etc and make un-informed speculations about where I am in my recovery. To me this says a great deal about you, and not much about me. Based on very little data, you think you have me figured out and even claim that I’m green in my recovery. Your post has a lot of judgements about me. Perhaps you attribute all you said about me to every Christian who takes offense at what you say. I asked you a question. Why do you keep making the references you do? Especially when I fail to see the relevance to the subjects at hand. Foolish me for trying to take you seriously. You bring that email into here. Private to public. I follow up. You follow up. Your reply makes me wonder if you read much of my reply. I think I shall drop this thread, though I fear you may follow up to future posts of mine in other threads with the same stuff. Perhaps dumping all this crap on a Christian helps you in your recovery. Only you can answer that and I’m not even sure you can. Maybe you won’t follow up with more of the same stuff. Shout it loud enough and long enough perhaps? Sarcasm on: You win. You are right. You are brilliant. I should bow to your vastly superior intellect and communication skills and will never confront you again. You thoroughly outfight me in all departments. I’m so green I don’t even know what recovery is or where to find it. I can’t possibly face myself or be honest with myself, let alone anyone else or, horrors, realize that there may be people who don’t think the way I do! Sarcasm off. Petty, childish, foolish, but somewhat satisfying. As Bugs Bunny has said, I’d like to say it’s been a good time, but it hasn’t. toodles, Eric "It’s not the sharpness of the blade, or how much light it shows It’s more the way the wisdom’s used, than just how much one knows" Arctic Rose by Susan Aglukark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ue false modesty of grandstanding in the ng to deal with public issues found here, and taking it off line in the dark of night in to the private arena, especially when it was unasked for, unsoliceted, and as you found out unwelcomed … and since I started it here, and brought it back here, thank you for keeping it here dispite your personal need to do otherwise. honesty is hard for people green in their recovery. as for the topic of God making babies with his daughters giving birth to an incest inbreed, and you have a problem with moi because of that. it is that that I suggest you are loath to think … because ANYBUDDIE saying that would rise up the same issues, its the words, the ideas you dont like – so its not me. I am not your problem, your problem since you are the one who brought it up, is that your God the Father makes babies with his virgin daughter, hell it could be a bigger miracle if Joseph got preggers and not his wife Madonna … but that would be to close to the Romulus/Reamus twin cult … and homosexuality twisting into the evil twin – Satan. This to you makes no sense, it makes no sense about the miracle birth of God the Father and his virgin daughter getting it on and making a baby, his son with his daughter … Keep working on your recovery, healing up the beast 666 with in, especially if you are sucking at the Roman Wolf nipple is hard to do. Good luck dude, you dont understand cause you dont want to and you don want to explore and find out … far to scary might lose your ticket into everlasting life if you question your external higher power who you give your life away to. Its a neat trick for Satan to hide in the Bible and pretend its a holy thing for Fathers to make babies with His daughters, especially the ones who are not experienced, and its them being touched for the very first time. Like a virgin. Oooooooooooh !!!!!! sumbuddie else said dat :*) Mr. Mac Farlane, Typically, I email something to someone because that way I know I’m not grand-standing or getting on a soapbox. If I have a problem with someone, I try to resolve that privately. Taking it ‘off-line’ so to speak. That’s worked with other people, but not with you. Since you brought this here, I’ll respond here. I find your answer makes no sense. The only thing I can figure out from it is that part of your recovery depends on twisting scripture to support a different point of view, and making fun of the beliefs of Christians. This is nothing new to me. I guess after reading some of your posts for a very long time, I finally tried to see if there was a point to your doing that. Obviously there is, but I’m not sure I understand it. You make a number of assumptions about me, that I dislike learning, not studied etc. Assume what you will. I won’t bother to either confirm or deny. If you feel that way, mere words and arguments won’t convince you otherwise. I have been here before. I first posted to aar in 1995 and continued off and on for a couple of years. I stopped because I found it too difficult to deal with someone who labelled a large number of people abusers without substantiating his accusation. Some people may remember Brent Turvey. I resumed posting perhaps 2 years ago? but stopped last year when I got laid off from Nortel. Being unemployed meant I no longer had the energy for aar. Now that I have a job again, I’ve found I have the energy to participate. We’ll see, anyway. Even when I was participating, I often reached my max and had to back off. My recovery is proceeding very well. For recent developments and information, see other posts of mine. I’m still considering seeing a therapist, but haven’t made up my mind yet. If you still don’t remember me, surely you remember my signature? toodles, Eric —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Mr. Mac Farlane, Below is a copy/paste of an private email I got from Eric. My reply is below that, which is posted here in public, cause Eric is new and wanted to do this privately which to me is a boundary I want to enforce for my own sanity … keeping the disease out of my own house as it were. :*) //// Is there some reason why you make frequent comments like "God making babies with his virgin daughters" and other similar stuff when it hardly seems to be relevant to a particular thread? I find it upsetting and also inaccurate. Obviously, this is a free country and we can say what we want, and I am free to ignore what people say as well. However, is there something you’re trying to achieve here? I really get the impression that you’re just trying to piss people off. Oh, and in case you missed it before, I am a Christian. As to where in the vast scope of Christianity I belong, I have my thoughts, and no doubt you have yours. Regards, Eric //// So Eric, you want to know if there is something I am trying to acheive with mentioning how God the Father makes babies with his virgin daughters, like Madonna when she was married to some Joe. Satan being my Uncle, the fourth created after God the Father, HolyGhost, Jesus, then Satan … I also find is curious that the Roman God, Jupiter did one of his many sex game conquests and gave birth to twin sons also, Romulus and Reamus, who created the "wolf cult" of the Roman Empire … Christians seems to have twisted that disease a little with Jesus and Satan always getting it on in their spiritual war. Anyhow, the topic and issue here in the NG is recovery from abusive dysfunctional childhoods, and how malignant and pervasive the disease is in society and in people. I did not make up the incest inbreed stuff about Jesus and Madonna and God the Father making babies with his virgin children … perhaps you know about Exodus 21:22-27 where abortion is not murder since there is no soul in it. I just report this stuff, you can make of it what you will. Take what you want from the NG and leave the rest. Your recovery will take you where you need to go to get healed if you just trust the process. It doesn’t seem that you are well learned or studied man Eric, in fact thinking is something that I suspect you are loath to do … Anyhow good luck on your recovery from the Beast 666, your days are numbered. sumbuddie on da watchtower :*) —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Mr. Mac Farlane, Typically, I email something to someone because that way I know I’m not grand-standing or getting on a soapbox. If I have a problem with someone, I try to resolve that privately. Taking it ‘off-line’ so to speak. That’s worked with other people, but not with you. Since you brought this here, I’ll respond here. I find your answer makes no sense. The only thing I can figure out from it is that part of your recovery depends on twisting scripture to support a different point of view, and making fun of the beliefs of Christians. This is nothing new to me. I guess after reading some of your posts for a very long time, I finally tried to see if there was a point to your doing that. Obviously there is, but I’m not sure I understand it. You make a number of assumptions about me, that I dislike learning, not studied etc. Assume what you will. I won’t bother to either confirm or deny. If you feel that way, mere words and arguments won’t convince you otherwise. I have been here before. I first posted to aar in 1995 and continued off and on for a couple of years. I stopped because I found it too difficult to deal with someone who labelled a large number of people abusers without substantiating his accusation. Some people may remember Brent Turvey. I resumed posting perhaps 2 years ago? but stopped last year when I got laid off from Nortel. Being unemployed meant I no longer had the energy for aar. Now that I have a job again, I’ve found I have the energy to participate. We’ll see, anyway. Even when I was participating, I often reached my max and had to back off. My recovery is proceeding very well. For recent developments and information, see other posts of mine. I’m still considering seeing a therapist, but haven’t made up my mind yet. If you still don’t remember me, surely you remember my signature? toodles, Eric "It’s not the sharpness of the blade, or how much light it shows It’s more the way the wisdom’s used, than just how much one knows" Arctic Rose by Susan Aglukark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mr. Mac Farlane, Below is a copy/paste of an private email I got from Eric. My reply is below that, which is posted here in public, cause Eric is new and wanted to do this privately which to me is a boundary I want to enforce for my own sanity … keeping the disease out of my own house as it were. :*) //// Is there some reason why you make frequent comments like "God making babies with his virgin daughters" and other similar stuff when it hardly seems to be relevant to a particular thread? I find it upsetting and also inaccurate. Obviously, this is a free country and we can say what we want, and I am free to ignore what people say as well. However, is there something you’re trying to achieve here? I really get the impression that you’re just trying to piss people off. Oh, and in case you missed it before, I am a Christian. As to where in the vast scope of Christianity I belong, I have my thoughts, and no doubt you have yours. Regards, Eric //// So Eric, you want to know if there is something I am trying to acheive with mentioning how God the Father makes babies with his virgin daughters, like Madonna when she was married to some Joe. Satan being my Uncle, the fourth created after God the Father, HolyGhost, Jesus, then Satan … I also find is curious that the Roman God, Jupiter did one of his many sex game conquests and gave birth to twin sons also, Romulus and Reamus, who created the "wolf cult" of the Roman Empire … Christians seems to have twisted that disease a little with Jesus and Satan always getting it on in their spiritual war. Anyhow, the topic and issue here in the NG is recovery from abusive dysfunctional childhoods, and how malignant and pervasive the disease is in society and in people. I did not make up the incest inbreed stuff about Jesus and Madonna and God the Father making babies with his virgin children … perhaps you know about Exodus 21:22-27 where abortion is not murder since there is no soul in it. I just report this stuff, you can make of it what you will. Take what you want from the NG and leave the rest. Your recovery will take you where you need to go to get healed if you just trust the process. It doesn’t seem that you are well learned or studied man Eric, in fact thinking is something that I suspect you are loath to do … Anyhow good luck on your recovery from the Beast 666, your days are numbered. sumbuddie on da watchtower :*) —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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ue false modesty of grandstanding in the ng to deal with public issues found here, and taking it off line in the dark of night in to the private arena, especially when it was unasked for, unsoliceted, and as you found out unwelcomed … and since I started it here, and brought it back here, thank you for keeping it here dispite your personal need to do otherwise. honesty is hard for people green in their recovery. as for the topic of God making babies with his daughters giving birth to an incest inbreed, and you have a problem with moi because of that. it is that that I suggest you are loath to think … because ANYBUDDIE saying that would rise up the same issues, its the words, the ideas you dont like – so its not me. I am not your problem, your problem since you are the one who brought it up, is that your God the Father makes babies with his virgin daughter, hell it could be a bigger miracle if Joseph got preggers and not his wife Madonna … but that would be to close to the Romulus/Reamus twin cult … and homosexuality twisting into the evil twin – Satan. This to you makes no sense, it makes no sense about the miracle birth of God the Father and his virgin daughter getting it on and making a baby, his son with his daughter … Keep working on your recovery, healing up the beast 666 with in, especially if you are sucking at the Roman Wolf nipple is hard to do. Good luck dude, you dont understand cause you dont want to and you don want to explore and find out … far to scary might lose your ticket into everlasting life if you question your external higher power who you give your life away to. Its a neat trick for Satan to hide in the Bible and pretend its a holy thing for Fathers to make babies with His daughters, especially the ones who are not experienced, and its them being touched for the very first time. Like a virgin. Oooooooooooh !!!!!! sumbuddie else said dat :*) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mr. Mac Farlane, Typically, I email something to someone because that way I know I’m not grand-standing or getting on a soapbox. If I have a problem with someone, I try to resolve that privately. Taking it ‘off-line’ so to speak. That’s worked with other people, but not with you. Since you brought this here, I’ll respond here. I find your answer makes no sense. The only thing I can figure out from it is that part of your recovery depends on twisting scripture to support a different point of view, and making fun of the beliefs of Christians. This is nothing new to me. I guess after reading some of your posts for a very long time, I finally tried to see if there was a point to your doing that. Obviously there is, but I’m not sure I understand it. You make a number of assumptions about me, that I dislike learning, not studied etc. Assume what you will. I won’t bother to either confirm or deny. If you feel that way, mere words and arguments won’t convince you otherwise. I have been here before. I first posted to aar in 1995 and continued off and on for a couple of years. I stopped because I found it too difficult to deal with someone who labelled a large number of people abusers without substantiating his accusation. Some people may remember Brent Turvey. I resumed posting perhaps 2 years ago? but stopped last year when I got laid off from Nortel. Being unemployed meant I no longer had the energy for aar. Now that I have a job again, I’ve found I have the energy to participate. We’ll see, anyway. Even when I was participating, I often reached my max and had to back off. My recovery is proceeding very well. For recent developments and information, see other posts of mine. I’m still considering seeing a therapist, but haven’t made up my mind yet. If you still don’t remember me, surely you remember my signature? toodles, Eric
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